E60 The Lie of “I’m Not Creative”: Finding Joy, Purpose, and Beauty Through Creativity

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:

Jen Cudmore (00:00)
Sometimes people have tried to tell me that they are not creative and I always push back on this because it’s not true. You were made in the image of God and he is an artist. He created tons of different things including you. So creativity already runs in your veins. The real question is how? How are you creative?

Rosalynn Lasley (00:11)
Mm.

Jen Cudmore (00:21)
God gave each person different gifts, different personalities, different ways of looking at the world. Your creativity is not going to look the same as mine. It’s not going to look the same as your mom or your pastor, right? So today, join Rosalyn and I. We’re going to discuss the beauty of creativity and how to tap into the creative power that God has given you. So here we go.

Welcome back to Into the Depths podcast. I’m your host Jennifer and I’m here today with Roslyn, my good friend. Thanks for joining us.

this is where we have discussions that go below the surface. We want to talk about deeper things, right? And the topic that we’re covering today is about creativity. And here’s the backstory. So the other day I was going through this box of cards that I have and I was looking for a thank you card and I don’t remember what for, but Roslyn used to make these cute little, I should say beautiful little cards where she’s so creative and crafty. She would put these together.

Rosalynn Lasley (01:36)
Mm-hmm.

Thank

Jen Cudmore (02:01)
And

I remember thinking man I really wish Roslyn was still making these because I would love to buy a whole bunch more and fill my box with them They’re just so cute. So anyhow, that’s what got me thinking about creativity was because I was just thinking man I just love how creative Roslyn is and really just like so crafty in a lot of different ways And so I thought oh great idea for a podcast I can chat about Roslyn chat about this with Roslyn. So that’s why we’re here

Rosalynn Lasley (02:27)
Well good news is I do still have all my card stuff so if you want more cards I can make it happen.

Jen Cudmore (02:32)
I love it.

I love it. would totally buy some more. They’re so beautiful. So let’s just start off.

Right off the bat, we’re gonna say you are creative, period. Every human is because that, like I was saying, you were made in the image of God and he is creative. He created the entire world. We don’t need to go into that. You get it. But he is an artist. Like he is very creative and it’s not just about nature or like how he put together our bodies, but it’s other things like he made colors. He made music. Like he made all the things in life that we get to enjoy. And so I really wanna chat

Rosalynn Lasley (02:43)
Mm-hmm.

Jen Cudmore (03:09)
challenge you if you’ve ever thought that you were not a creative person, you need to cut off that lie right now because you are. It’s just a matter of you haven’t discovered it yet. And I think some people who tend to be a little more logical and cerebral because that is a legit personality. Sometimes they might feel that way about themselves. And I just I’m pushing back on that. You have a certain amount of creativity already inside you. And so why does that matter? We’re going to kind of cover that a little bit. But first, I want to talk about different ways

Rosalynn Lasley (03:14)
you

Jen Cudmore (03:39)
can be creative because I think sometimes we ⁓ make the definition of that way too small, right? Don’t you think so, Roslyn?

Rosalynn Lasley (03:46)
Yeah, yeah,

absolutely. I think we think of it along the lines of like making music or, you know, arts and crafts or building and that sort of thing. And there’s so much more to it than that.

Jen Cudmore (03:55)
Yeah.

There is. So, I mean, let’s start with some of the easy ones. know, painting, drawing. I think of the people who do all the animated cartoons or graphic novels. I mean, that’s some talent. I can barely draw a stick figure. Like, I don’t know colors and paint and any of that, so.

Rosalynn Lasley (04:08)
Yeah.

And never, so

what happens in my brain does not ever translate when I’m trying to like paint or draw. But it’s fun. there’s people that make music. ⁓ I was thinking of, you know, like architecture or even surgeons. There’s some creativity that goes into that. ⁓ There’s people that just have creative thinking about things. They think outside of the box. ⁓

Jen Cudmore (04:21)
Mm-hmm.

Yes, for sure.

Rosalynn Lasley (04:40)
and maybe they’re not the ones that do the execution, they’re the brains behind the operation. There’s so much more involvement with creativity than what we think. ⁓ There’s cooking and gardening. Like there’s some creativity that comes with that.

Jen Cudmore (04:51)
For sure. Yes.

Absolutely.

Absolutely. think of fashion like I’m totally not into fashion, but there’s I know what I like and what I don’t like and I’ve learned like Wow, there’s certain colors that actually go better with my hair and my skin I had I mean I never cared about that for the longest time but you know mixing and matching different colors different fabrics You know making the different shapes and styles I could never think that kind of stuff up my brain doesn’t work like that But that’s creative or the different way shoes are made too or even like jewelry

Rosalynn Lasley (05:01)
No.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (05:28)
Like, I don’t know anything about putting that kind of thing together.

Rosalynn Lasley (05:30)
people have, there’s some

creativity with design, you know, like the interior of a home or the textures of walls and carpets and flooring and all of that stuff, or do we have shutters or brick when somebody’s building a home? Like there really is creativity in so many different things that some of it’s like we can’t even think of,

Jen Cudmore (05:37)
Yes.

Yes.

Rosalynn Lasley (05:53)
how small maybe our imagination is. There’s so many things outside of that box.

Jen Cudmore (05:59)
For sure. think of like home decorating has always been a challenge for me because I’m like, what do I like? I don’t know what I like. Well, I like these colors, but I don’t know how to match them all together. And like, how do you choose the furniture that complements the painting that complements the I mean, there’s so much to the interior part of decorating with what artwork you’re going to put on the wall and how does it match your recliner or what? I mean, I don’t.

There are people that have really, they’re really quick to be able to see things and how that fits together, not me. ⁓ I think also actors, like it fascinates me how people can do different acting. Like I just, I’m not skilled in that at all, but it’s very creative.

Rosalynn Lasley (06:32)
Yeah.

Mmm.

Yeah.

Or writing.

know, like Jen has several books. You you’re a published author. We blogged together just sharing our thoughts the way that you formulate your thoughts on paper is very interesting to people that there’s so many different genres of books. There’s different TV shows. You know, there’s just infinite amount of things

Jen Cudmore (06:49)
Writing, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

For sure.

Rosalynn Lasley (07:09)
I feel like there’s so much where you can just kind of let go and get lost in creativity and it’s like your rational brain shuts off a little bit and you’re able to just find some joy in things.

Jen Cudmore (07:15)
I totally agree.

Yeah.

I think of like, was playing a board game a couple of weeks ago. was up in Boston visiting my daughter and her husband and we were playing a board game and it just astounds me. Some of the ways people like think of here’s the objective and here’s how you want to try to go about it. And then like all the different pieces that you use to play the game. It’s like, I could have never thought up something like this. just, it really blows my mind sometimes even something as simple as a card game. Who, who, who decided to create rummy or poker or like, you know what I mean? Like.

Rosalynn Lasley (07:47)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (07:52)
This is crazy.

Rosalynn Lasley (07:54)
hadn’t even considered

that but yeah you’re right and there’s so many different kinds of games and some are short and some are long and even deciding like the age groups that are appropriate for it you know or amusement park rides are like really the possibilities are endless even

Jen Cudmore (07:57)
Thank

Yeah.

for sure.

Yeah!

Another example is, remember Tim and I went through all the Star Wars movies a couple of weeks ago just for fun. We hadn’t done it in a few years. And every time I look at those sets, I’m like, wow, that is just incredible. The way they come up with the different buildings for the different planets and the different cities and the different creatures. You’re just like, for me, I’m always in such awe of the different.

Rosalynn Lasley (08:25)
Mm-hmm.

Jen Cudmore (08:36)
Background pieces that really make the movie. It’s not just about the plot and the characters, but you’ve got to have the right setting too So cinema, I mean there there’s so much to that or even if you’re just making a ⁓ Play at a high school, right? You’ve got to have the right props and the right background. Someone’s got to build those someone’s got to create those So anyhow, yeah We just wanted to give you like a well-rounded list to get you thinking of all the different types of ways that you can be creative and

Rosalynn Lasley (08:44)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (09:06)
and not just keep it in this narrow little box, but there’s just, there’s so many. So hopefully that opens your eyes a little bit to where you might fit into, ⁓ you know, your creative spot. So I wanna talk about why creativity matters, I guess. Like, who cares if we’re creative? Do you have any thoughts around that, Roslyn?

Rosalynn Lasley (09:31)
I think when we snuff out that creativity, it ⁓ limits the ability to find joy outside of just the normal everyday thing. It allows us to experience so much more in life when we pursue creativity, whether it’s arts and crafts or music or cooking or ⁓ traveling or any of those sorts of things. Our lives are so limited and just kind of sheltered when we are like, I’m not creative, I’m not gonna try.

Jen Cudmore (09:59)
For sure. And like you mentioned the word before, outlet. I think it was you. Maybe it was me. Somebody said something.

It like we need a way to express ourselves and that’s where creativity comes in. It can be

done in so many different ways, but it’s when you’re expressive, it just sort of releases not just emotion. I do believe creativity does release a lot of emotion. It’s really good for us. It helps us process emotions because that’s what makes a story really good or a painting really good is you feel the emotion behind it. But also I think there’s other things in us that need to be let out that maybe we don’t even know how to define.

Rosalynn Lasley (10:24)
Yeah, definitely.

Mm hmm.

Yeah.

I would just say our brains produce really good hormones that help with how we feel ⁓ when we’re allowed to be creative. ⁓ It’s like dopamine, serotonin, all of those different feel-good hormones, we release those. And so when we are stressed and we have the opportunity to have a creative outlet, ⁓ know, some of it’s even just like exercise. People have these like ⁓ step classes or I think…

Jen Cudmore (10:50)
Okay.

Right. Sure.

Rosalynn Lasley (11:07)
way back in the 90s when I was in school. ⁓ Tybo was a thing, but it was exercise, but somebody had the creativity behind like, how can we move our bodies in a way that’s healthy, but it’s not boring. all of those things together produce these hormones that help us when we’re stressed or sad or angry. ⁓ And so it’s good for us to be creative.

Jen Cudmore (11:19)
Yes.

Yeah, that’s great. I think of like, that made me think of dancing and ice skating and, you know, different things like that. Or even like a snowboarder who does different tricks or like maybe someone I’m sorry, I don’t know this very well, but like the bike, motorbikes where they do all that, that

Rosalynn Lasley (11:44)
Mm, yeah, Mordor Cross.

Jen Cudmore (11:45)
those fancy tricks on those motorbikes is crazy or even like those giant trucks that do some fancy stuff to you. I mean, that’s creativity and that’s fun and that’s an outlet, right?

Rosalynn Lasley (11:56)
Right.

Well, and I think ⁓ one thing that’s really fun to me is like if I think probably the last time I thought it, were at an amusement park and I was just kind of looking around and on and I thought once upon a time this was somebody’s dream. Like, and it took lots of moving parts for it to come to fruition. But like these amusement park rides and the water feature and

Jen Cudmore (12:11)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (12:22)
the food that would be offered and the way that things are laid out. Like this was all somebody’s dream and then it took creativity to put it into motion. And then from that, it brought joy to those of us that like to go visit. It’s just, I don’t know, I think it’s so cool to see this was somebody’s dream that they had enough bravery to pursue.

Jen Cudmore (12:27)
Yes.

Yeah, I think it’s huge. think of like, you know, my family had an opportunity to go to Epic Universe, the new park ⁓ a couple of months ago. And I had no idea at first that there was a Nintendo world. And we, you know, we stepped in there and, you know, for me it was a little nostalgic because I hardly play video games. But when I was a kid, I did do Mario Kart. mean, and so that was all fun. So just thinking about the idea of, as you said,

This was someone’s dream of, building this part of the park and taking all the stuff from Nintendo and making it feel real and tangible and being able to walk through it. But then also like that game to be able to sit down and just have the joy of, you know, racing your brother or whatever it is, you know, on that little tiny handheld thing. Like somebody thought that up. And because of that, I got to have the joy of chasing mushrooms and, ⁓ you know, coins and

Rosalynn Lasley (13:18)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Alright.

Jen Cudmore (13:39)
so it’s not just about the person creating it. It’s about the person, ⁓ what’s the word, not consuming it, but like observing it and participating in it and the joy that they get to feel because of what that creative person builds. And so it’s, it’s not just about in the moment of building. It’s also about the, what happens to the rest of us when we get to enjoy it.

Rosalynn Lasley (13:47)
experiencing. Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Right. Well, or you think of creativity and how vehicles were produced and bridges were built and boats and airplanes and all of this. Like, so many people have been able to reap the benefits of somebody else’s creativity. You know, it’s given us the opportunity to travel and to visit other people and to, send life-saving medications places or, for missionaries to go and do God’s work all over the world and…

Jen Cudmore (14:20)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (14:33)
You know, something as simple as me making a card, because I find that when my mind is busy, it helps when my hands are busy. But you know, me making a card, you’re like, this is pretty. And then you send it to a friend, maybe with an encouraging message inside. And so it’s something that I did to blow off some steam, ⁓ or just to, because I enjoy being creative, continued that blessing onto the next person.

Jen Cudmore (14:41)
Okay.

Yeah.

it’s not only beneficial to the person who did the building and did the creating and did the work, but it’s also, there’s so many benefits to the person who gets to participate in it and enjoy it. You’re so right. And that can trickle down, like you said, it can have a chain effect, right? It can keep going.

Rosalynn Lasley (15:08)
Right.

Right, or even paintings

and stuff. It helps people take a house and turn it into a sanctuary and a home by decorating it. Or the textiles in furniture. It’s given people a place for reprieve and community. The sky’s the limit, really, when it comes to creativity. There’s so many different ways to be creative and so many different ways that we are.

Jen Cudmore (15:21)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (15:40)
able to experience blessings and be blessings through creativity.

Jen Cudmore (15:45)
Exactly. And that makes me think of, you know, working ⁓

I’ve worked in the medical field for 25 years and just the idea of the kind of environment that you create in a waiting room that can help a patient feel less anxious, make them feel welcome. The smile on the face of the front desk people is super important. And so I really appreciate it in all the places that I’ve worked or most of the places I’ve worked. They’re really intentional about how they decorate and what kind of environment they create to make the patients feel welcome. And specifically, right now I work

pediatric specialty clinic and we have some really sick kids come through there and the last thing we want is for them to be fearful of the future and so we have a lot of toys out for them to play with and ⁓ I mean that was one of my favorite things when I first took the job was walking into the waiting room and seeing all these toys everywhere and unfortunately I had to pick it all up for COVID and put it away for a little while but it was just ⁓ you know so that they could come in it was a creative way to create an

to build an environment or establish an atmosphere to make them feel comfortable. So I mean another way that creativity has provided benefits in ⁓ different capacities.

Rosalynn Lasley (17:01)
And it

was again that trickle. So somebody created a toy from their imagination and then that toy was picked up by somebody at the clinic and they use their own creativity for how it would be utilized in the clinic to be able to be a blessing to somebody during a hard time. And so it’s just that ripple effect of how when we use the skills that God has given us in the way that he’s entrusting us to, the blessings are far reaching.

Jen Cudmore (17:05)
Yep.

Mm-hmm.

for sure. So let’s take it a little step further because it got me thinking about like, creativity really has a close connection with the idea of beauty, the concept of things that are beautiful, right? And so why are we as humans so easily captivated by beautiful things? it’s because,

Rosalynn Lasley (17:42)
Hmm.

Jen Cudmore (17:53)
God, put that inside us. Like that is a normal part of being human. Our eyes are naturally gonna be drawn to things that are beautiful or sounds that are soothing. I think of like the ocean or a sunrise or right? We’re drawn to that ⁓ kind of thing just because it’s the beauty captivates us. It captures our attention and we enjoy it. We get to behold it. We get to look at it and enjoy it.

Rosalynn Lasley (18:20)
and how cool that our creator gave us the ability to enjoy these sorts of things. Something as simple as sounds or smells or sights or ⁓ sensations. Like the fact that we get to receive joy from those things or can’t give joy from those things is just, it blows my mind.

Jen Cudmore (18:26)
That’s

Yeah.

Exactly, I think of even just the creativity of putting together a bouquet of flowers and how much joy that can bring you, not just by sight, but the beautiful smells that can go with that. And I was thinking like kind of as a side note of, yeah, we live in a fallen world and so sometimes beholding things that are beautiful can get skewed and twisted by appetites of the flesh, right? It can be… ⁓

Rosalynn Lasley (19:07)
Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (19:08)
turned into an unhealthy desire. And of course, that’s not really what we’re addressing here today. We’re talking about the righteous, pure beauty and creativity that the Lord meant for us to experience. God’s plan was that while we were on this earth, we would get to enjoy beautiful things like creation and just all the different ways that people have been creative and built things and made things for us to enjoy.

Rosalynn Lasley (19:35)
Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (19:38)
the idea of, as I was trying to define this and describe it, I was like, it’s almost like when you look at something beautiful, your soul just like, breathes in fresh air and you like, you just, can’t help but just sort of sigh and be like, ⁓ that’s just, that’s so nice. It’s just so peaceful I just kind of think a breath of fresh air is a way to explain it. The idea of enjoying creativity and beauty.

Rosalynn Lasley (19:51)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, and we were created to enjoy the creativity and beauty. know, the Lord has the intelligent design, I think is how it’s described. But we are created with intelligent design so much so that our brain releases these feel good hormones when we get to experience the creativity of those around us. Like, how cool is that? That God designed us in a way that we could smell something like cotton candy and it releases something in our brain that we enjoy.

Jen Cudmore (20:13)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (20:32)
Like how neat, I don’t know, leaves me grateful that we have a Heavenly Father who cares about us so much that He allows us to experience joy from simple things ⁓ and gives us the talents to create things that give others the opportunity to experience that joy.

Jen Cudmore (20:32)
Yeah.

I agree. I just, as I ponder this, just thinking about how many things we take for granted. Like how many times do I walk by these bushes on my front porch? And it’s not that I’m not grateful for them, but sometimes I forget to pause for a second and choose to be grateful for them. right? Does that make sense? Like I absolutely love the tree in my front yard. And I try to really make a point of, you know, every so often just saying, thank you, Lord. I realize it’s winter and it has no

Rosalynn Lasley (21:07)
Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (21:18)
leaves and maybe it’s not as pretty as it is in the spring but that really is a beautiful tree even when it’s barren even in the winter and take a minute to enjoy it I think ⁓ it can be so easy in our busy lives to forget to pause and make sure that we’re enjoying creativity and beauty around us yeah

Rosalynn Lasley (21:26)
Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

Jen Cudmore (21:37)
we do have to be intentional sometimes in making sure that we don’t take those things for granted. think

One of the things I wanted to do when we moved to South Carolina was do a better job of putting together a nice home with the idea of interior decorating, right? Again, not a strength of mine. But I really put some effort into thinking, well, what do I like and how would I want this to come together? I never would have thought that I would have settled on the color red, but for some reason I’ve decorated my kitchen in red accents. learning to put

Rosalynn Lasley (21:54)
Mm-mm.

you

Jen Cudmore (22:13)
up just different plants and flowers and like a, you know, a cutting board and a silver tray and just different things and sort of learn to develop an eye for what I like and how to put that up. And so when I walk by that, ⁓

Rosalynn Lasley (22:26)
Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (22:31)
I love that feeling that I get when I walk in my kitchen and I see those things and I’m like, all of these things are special to me. They have meaning. And then when you lump them all together on the same hutch and like arrange it in a nice order, right? It just, ⁓ it’s just such a sweet feeling.

Rosalynn Lasley (22:45)
Mm-hmm.

Jen Cudmore (22:49)
That’s an area for me, you know, walking into my kitchen. It’s very easy for me to get caught up in that moment of this is so beautiful and I just really enjoy it. I’m so grateful for all these things, but there’s going to be other things in our life where it’s easy, where we’re laser focused and we forget to pause and say, ⁓ let me just take a minute to enjoy this beautiful thing, which is why it’s, good to be intentional about outings and going on a hike or, know, doing things with your family, like going to the zoo.

or

a museum or whatever, right? And being intentional about going and finding those things so that you can enjoy the beauty of them. One of the things that Tim and I have did last year is we drove out to a bunch of different waterfalls in the Carolinas. And it was fun just seeing all the different ways that God, you know, created the waterfalls. I love water anyway, but ⁓ it was just really refreshing. So but we were intentional. My point is sometimes you got to be intentional to enjoy those

Rosalynn Lasley (23:21)
Yeah

no.

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (23:49)
creative things and those beautiful things.

Rosalynn Lasley (23:50)
Yeah. And sometimes you

have to think a little bit about like, in what ways am I creative? and it can be challenging initially if you’ve never had somebody explore that with you or even, you know, there’s times where maybe somebody has snuffed those creativity, ⁓ those creative thoughts out like, you’re not very good at drawing. You’re not very good at music. You’re not very good at singing. And so then it makes you reluctant to lean into that anymore.

Jen Cudmore (24:11)
Mm-hmm.

Rosalynn Lasley (24:19)
But you can ask, like, Lord, I don’t know that I feel creative in any way. Can you help me identify the skills and the talents you’ve given me and help me to explore those things? Like, what do I find joy in? What types of things do I do? Or which ways do I think that is exercising creativity? And then how can I be blessed and how can I be a blessing with these talents you’ve given me?

Jen Cudmore (24:19)
Yeah.

Last year I was talking to somebody about how she was learning how to use Canva to create ⁓ different images and mockups and some marketing stuff. And she was like, I had no idea how much I enjoy building these images, making these graphics. And I was like, that’s cool. And so the more she did it and she would enjoy it and she was like, I want to do more of this. And so she was praying into that. Like, how can I incorporate this more in my life because I

it so much. And so I think that’s just the perfect example for us that she’s, you know, in her 40s she never would have in a million years thought that she would enjoy playing around on Canva and then she did it and wow what do you know? So I think you’ll be surprised if you ask the Lord and you start tinkering a little bit with some different things. I think you will be surprised at some of the ways that you have that creativity inside of you.

Rosalynn Lasley (25:13)
Yeah.

was thinking

of something that we hadn’t mentioned before, we think about what ways do I find joy, what things give me joy, and for me it’s a birth work, so I really love supporting women as they’re laboring and getting ready to have a baby, but there is a lot of creativity that comes with that. Like in which ways can we move your body or which tools can we use that we have within your home to help, you know, give you counter pressure, help alleviate pain in this way that we maybe wouldn’t have thought of before.

Jen Cudmore (26:01)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (26:05)
And so that’s a way for me to be creative. ⁓ And it gives me a measurable joy to help somebody welcome their baby. But it also is a blessing to them as they’re walking through it. And there comes a point where they’re not able to think through, like, what things should I try to help this be more comfortable? And that’s where my creative brain comes in handy. Like, what have we not tried yet? What could we explore? So again, that’s just, you know.

Jen Cudmore (26:27)
Yeah, I love that.

Rosalynn Lasley (26:31)
would I have thought that that was an area of creativity? Probably not initially, but the more you think about it and the more that you explore what things give me joy and what am I good at, you can find that there is creativity all over.

Jen Cudmore (26:46)
That’s such a perfect example. I’m so excited you said that because like that’s real life. I mean, that’s not like picking up a pen and trying to learn how to draw. Like that’s the kind of thing we think of when we think of creativity. But that’s a real life experience as something with something that you’re already passionate about. And it makes me think of, you know, this this year, as I’ve been learning to develop a coaching program around teaching women to pray, I realized as I’m writing out the curriculum and the things that I want to talk about and outlining the

Rosalynn Lasley (26:50)
you

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (27:15)
the different sessions and then begin creating the worksheets for women to use to practice some different things. I was like praying one day, I thought, Lord, I love building worksheets and writing outlines. Like who would have thought? Like I didn’t remember that being a thing for me, but I really enjoyed the creativity of trying to put together all my different points under each topic. ⁓ And then it clicked in my mind, know,

Rosalynn Lasley (27:29)
Yeah.

Yuck.

Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (27:44)
Several years ago when I used to teach ⁓ every year at the youth conference how much I enjoyed coming up with the topics and writing the outlines and and Presenting that to the teenagers and I thought okay. So this kind of is a thing I just haven’t been doing it and so yeah different ways you can be creative that you maybe wouldn’t have thought of so

Rosalynn Lasley (27:58)
Yeah.

Yeah, you may not

identify it as that, but it is.

Jen Cudmore (28:07)
Yeah,

for sure. And then I just want to point out as we kind of come to a close on this topic, just the idea that creativity, I believe one of the main reasons that God put that in our heart is because it’s a chance or an opportunity for us to connect with our creator, with God himself, the one who made the universe, right?

Rosalynn Lasley (28:24)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Jen Cudmore (28:29)
I think that we really need to treasure it because God wants us to enjoy.

being creative. It gives us a sense of purpose. gives us a sense of fulfillment, but it’s also a way to have conversation with him, to partner with him in your kingdom assignments or just simply to bless other people. You know, it’s a way that it’s not just an outlet. It’s not just a way to manage things or express ourselves, but it’s also a way that we can connect with the Lord and partner with him in doing different things. So I just think that’s really cool.

Rosalynn Lasley (29:03)
Right? And as we

explore our own creativity, we start to identify his creativity.

Jen Cudmore (29:10)
And so I think there’s lots to ponder there. I think there’s lots to ponder. that’s pretty much it. So as we go about this week, let’s explore the depths of this final thought. Do you know your creativity niche? Where are you gifted with certain creative abilities? If you have a tendency to believe that you are not creative,

Rosalynn Lasley (29:13)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

Jen Cudmore (29:35)
then how can you challenge that lie? And what would it look like for you to lean in and ask God how you are creative? What are the different ways that he made you to be creative? And then how can you begin to incorporate those into your life? So that’s all. Bless you, friends. Have a good week.

Rosalynn Lasley (29:51)
Okay.