S1E4: Dead Weight: What’s Hindering Us From Running Our Race Well?

SHOW TRANSCRIPT

Jennifer Cudmore (01:02)
Hey everybody, welcome back to Into the Depths. I am really excited because today I have my friend Rosalynn with me. She’s my cohost and she’s gonna be helping me out with some of these episodes. So let me first just really quickly tell you how we met. We both lived in Alaska for, actually, did you grow up in Alaska, Rosalynn? I can’t remember. You were born there, right? So I moved up there when I had my kids. So we ended up going to the same church for a little while, didn’t realize it. We actually met each other through

Rosalynn Lasley (01:19)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (01:32)
a blog that we both started writing for through Alaska Christian Women’s Ministries. So we worked together on that, I don’t know, several years. And so we were partners in that ministry and that was how we met and we got to know each other. so I’ll just, give you a second, go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself, Roslyn.

Rosalynn Lasley (01:34)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

So I’m a born and raised Alaskan that relocated to Virginia in 2022. There’s things I miss about Alaska and things I don’t. For example, it’s snowing a ton here and I don’t miss that. So it was a leap of faith to leave behind everybody we’ve known and loved to move to the East Coast. But I feel like we don’t grow staying planted. So it’s been an adventure and

Jennifer Cudmore (02:05)
No.

Rosalynn Lasley (02:21)
Yeah, so we’re here to minister again.

Jennifer Cudmore (02:25)
Yes, I’m so excited to work with you in ministry again. Okay, so today we are gonna talk about hindrances and I’m actually gonna read a Bible verse to get us started before I ask our question. So this is gonna be Hebrews 12 verse one and I’m reading this out of the NIV version.

Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.” And that is something that I’ve been thinking about for a little while as far as hindrances. To me, when people have read that scripture, they seem to focus on the sin that so easily entangles. And to me,

Rosalynn Lasley (03:07)
Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (03:14)
The first part of that is something that gets overlooked too much because there’s a lot of hindrances that we have that are not technically sin or technically wrong. And so I think that’s

what I want to go over today is what are some things that weigh us down and get in our way that are not technically wrong, but they sabotage us, right? So let me give a couple of phrases from some different versions, because I think this will help round it out. So the new living says strip off every weight that slows us down.

Rosalynn Lasley (03:33)
Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (03:44)
The ESV and the new King James say, lay aside every weight. The NASB says, rid ourselves of every obstacle. The Amplified says, strip away every unnecessary weight. And the CSB, lay aside every hindrance. So that kind of rounds it out for me. I think that’s pretty self-explanatory. I don’t know, do you have any comments?

Rosalynn Lasley (04:11)
I just like as you were talking about I was thinking about how much I do not enjoy running

And so like the thought of running with weight attached to me sounds like extra miserable. So I’m like, yeah, I can’t think of anything I dislike much more than running. So like the thought of having to run. Yeah. And like how much, I mean, our mission field is a race, but everyone runs at a different speed. But if you have a bunch of different things weighing you down and how each person has different things that weigh us down, then

Jennifer Cudmore (04:22)
Exactly.

I used to like running when I was younger.

Rosalynn Lasley (04:44)
the course that we take and the way that we take it is gonna look different and be exceptionally exhausting unless we’re taking an evaluation of what is set before me, what is my goal, what am I doing here, how am I going to accomplish it, do I even know where I’m going? So it’s just kind of funny how the Lord can take something that is impactful to different people, because some people enjoy running. And then there’s people like me that do not. But in the end,

It’s the same message to us, but delivered in a way that makes sense.

Jennifer Cudmore (05:17)
Yes, I agree. do like that picture and I hadn’t even thought about running with weights because some people do that. Athletes have done that. I’ve heard. I’ve heard. I’ve never seen it, never done it.

Rosalynn Lasley (05:24)
Yeah, and I’m like, why? Yeah. I’m like, I don’t even want to walk

around the house with weights on, let alone go for a run. Like, that sounds terrible.

Jennifer Cudmore (05:32)
No.

No. Exactly. All right. So our question today that we’re posing as we chat is what is hindering me from running my race well? So first, I think that we have to establish, do we even know what our purpose is? So what race am I supposed to run? Why am I on this earth? What am I called to do, right? What am I called to accomplish?

Rosalynn Lasley (05:50)
Thank

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, and I think just going back to the scripture of why would I want to run? Like, what am I running for? Not just what is my purpose, but why do I want to participate? And so I think not just what the destination is, but the purpose of the destination is equally impactful.

Jennifer Cudmore (06:07)
Great question.

Rosalynn Lasley (06:20)
And then there’s some people that say there’s joy in the journey. And for those that enjoy running, they’re like, yeah, this is the part of the whole experience is the running part. I’m like, why would you run if you don’t have to? But if we refocus our thoughts of getting to, why are we running? What are we running for? Not just where we’re going.

Jennifer Cudmore (06:40)
Exactly, I think of, you know, if we don’t have a plan, we tend to just kind of drift through life. I think drift is the best word. We just kind of go with the flow. Whereas if we have purpose, then we have direction. We can be intentional about certain actions, behaviors, opportunities, different things. I think of when I was in high school, I decided that

Rosalynn Lasley (06:48)
huh.

Thank

Jennifer Cudmore (07:07)
to go to college to get extra education would be a good idea because it would most likely help me get a better job and help me reach my goals. And so even way back in high school, I didn’t recognize what was going on inside me, but I recognized that I wanted to have a goal. I wanted to have a purpose and a direction, which means if I wanted to go to college, I to do well in school and work hard. So that, like I said, just, gave me direction. I had a purpose.

Rosalynn Lasley (07:23)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, and for me, I’ve been on the opposite side of the spectrum, is that I have always been…

afraid of setting goals because I’ve been afraid of disappointment. And so if I didn’t set goals, then I was in control of the outcome rather than trying super hard for something and putting my heart and soul into it and then being disappointed. Because I would rather not try and know the end result than to try my hardest and to still not be enough. So that’s something that I’ve been working through and kind of redefining in this season of my life is, you know, like,

There is a scripture and I may be like butchering the full verse, but without a goal the people perish. And I learned that in a life group and that’s something that weighed on me for a very long time because like I’ve never wanted to set goals because like I don’t want to be disappointed. You know, I’m already disappointed in myself in so many different areas that those disappointments just kind of.

take those negative thoughts and those negative views that you have of yourself and make them more true than they already feel because then like, yeah, well you aren’t good enough, you’re not smart enough, you’re not disciplined enough and all of those things become reinforced by the disappointment of not meeting the goals rather than pushing you to try harder. For me, they discourage me and cause me to back off because I would rather not set goals than to set them and be disappointed.

Jennifer Cudmore (09:03)
Yeah, that makes sense. I know there are several people like that. So that’s kind of two sides of that spectrum there. So next question would be, you’re somebody who doesn’t know your purpose, how do you find it? And I have three different ideas. don’t, you know, I’d love to hear if you had some other ideas. I was thinking, first of all, it depends on your role, because we all have different roles. Some of us, you know, wife, mom, and those are seasonal. You know, being a mom is

Rosalynn Lasley (09:11)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

then

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (09:31)
Well, let me rephrase that you’re always a mom, but you know, whether they’re in the home or they’ve moved out of the home, you still have children at home and I don’t. So our role, you know, my role has slightly changed now. I interact with my adult children different than I did when they were living with me. Right. So employee or boss, and now you are in management. So you definitely have seen that change there. So what else as far as roles?

Rosalynn Lasley (09:39)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

I think some of it is like with friendships, sometimes you’re the mentor, sometimes you’re the mentee. As you go through different seasons of life or even grow in the different seasons that you’re in, there will be people that are a step ahead of you and that you’ll glean wisdom from and then there’ll be people that look to you for wisdom because you’ve done it a little bit longer than they have. I think of, you know, in ministry there’s some that are

in leadership positions and ministry and some that are, you know, what some people call the worker bees. Like there’s those that have the vision and then those are, there are those that are executing the vision. And in the end, you’re all kind of working towards the same thing, but how you go about it is different. I don’t know, I feel like everything about our life is fitting us into some sort of role, whether it’s a leadership or in the behind the scenes of enforcing the long-term purpose.

Jennifer Cudmore (10:58)
Yeah, I agree. I think another thing is understanding our gifts and talents because we’re all different and we all have different skills and we all have different natural abilities versus things that we have even learned.

Rosalynn Lasley (11:03)
Mm-hmm.

And one

of the things, so you know that I had started counseling sometime I think this last spring, so it’s been almost a year now. And in the work that I was doing in counseling, I realized like how much I was selling myself short. When you look at yourself from a negative perspective or you assume that everybody else does or a little bit of both, it’s hard for you to

find a purpose because you don’t feel like you have any value in who you are or you also look at it from a place of humility but sometimes it’s low self-esteem or like a hindrance to your calling disguised as humility or like I’m not great at all of these things and so sometimes it takes somebody else like speaking that life into you and calling out traits that maybe you’ve been uncomfortable with acknowledging.

or haven’t been able to acknowledge because your viewpoint has been from a place of not seeing the value, not seeing the things that you’re good at, not being able to say, okay, I’m not perfect in this area, but I am skilled in it, so maybe I’m not where I wanna be, but that doesn’t mean that it’s completely discounted. And so I think for me, having people that were willing to speak that into me or to identify those things and…

Jennifer Cudmore (12:27)
Ahem.

Rosalynn Lasley (12:36)
give me in some ways permission to say, actually I am good at that and that’s okay. Yeah, sure there are people that are better at it, but that doesn’t mean that I’m not good at it. Or maybe this is a strength of mine, even if it’s as polished as somebody else who has a little bit more skill or practice in this area. And so for me, it was having people that spoke that into me and gave me permission to acknowledge that in myself that helped me to feel a little bit more confident and.

able to say, know what, yeah, I am good at that and I shouldn’t feel ashamed of feeling like I have, everybody has talents. Everybody has something they’re good at and it’s okay that I do have those things and then I’m acknowledging them in a way that’s not boastful but realistic.

Jennifer Cudmore (13:19)
Yeah, for sure. That’s so good. Thank you for sharing that. I think another thing too is our passions give us a huge clue as to what our purpose is. And we all have different passions and, you know, ultimately, generically, we would say, you know, we want to be, we want to serve others. We want to give that, you know, that’s kind of the goal ultimately. But what does that look like, you know?

Rosalynn Lasley (13:27)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (13:42)
You may be passionate about

trafficking. You may be passionate, you know, like me, I’m passionate about freedom and dealing with your junk and, you know, other people are passionate about getting water to, you know, countries that just don’t have clean water. There’s just so many different areas where there’s a need and it’s great that we’re all different. It’s great that we all have different passions because we’re all needed in different places. There’s a lot of need out there. So having a different passion is good.

Rosalynn Lasley (13:54)
Mm-hmm.

Thank you.

No.

Jennifer Cudmore (14:11)
It diversifies us. Is that the right way to say it?

Rosalynn Lasley (14:15)
Yeah, well,

and there’s a phrase like, many hands make a light load. If our passions are in different areas, then more things are being met. But sometimes we take that from, again, if you have a negative mindset, you’re thinking, well, I’m not thinking about mission work because I’m just focused on this small thing or this small thing. And like, no, actually, the grand scheme of things, they’re all significant. They’re just different.

Jennifer Cudmore (14:24)
Yes.

Absolutely. I mean, I know there are a lot of women out there who feel like being a mom isn’t a big deal and it’s a huge deal. It’s a huge deal. And we don’t always get recognition. You know, it’s not always glamorous for sure, but it’s hugely important. And I know women have, you know, looked down on themselves because they’ve seen super successful CEOs or whatever. And they think,

Rosalynn Lasley (14:51)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (15:08)
that that’s what life is about. But no, raising your kids is super important. So.

Rosalynn Lasley (15:13)
And then there’s the opposite

side too. There’s people that are like, well, I could never have children or I’m a single person. And like, sure, but you’re out in the mission field, like going out into all the nations and doing things that people can’t do when they’re home raising children. And so each season and each person has a purpose and a race that they’re being called to fulfill that one couldn’t do.

you know, I may not be able to do that, but they can. And so God is calling us to do different things where we’re at and where he wants us to go.

Jennifer Cudmore (15:42)
Yeah, exactly. So then once you have identified your purpose, then the question comes up of, how do I know I’ve been successful at it? Like, is the end? What is the desired end result? Where are we going? And having some parameters around that helps us to move forward in the right direction and being able to understand how to measure our success, depending on what each thing is, because

I didn’t really clarify this earlier, but we have multiple purposes. Like we don’t just have one giant, this is the only thing you’re meant to accomplish. I do think there’s lots of different things depending on season of life and whatever. anyhow, what do you think about that concept of having a defining what the end should look like?

Rosalynn Lasley (16:15)
Mm-hmm.

huh.

Yeah, I don’t think we ever have an end until we’re called into glory. I think we have like mile markers if we’re going back to that race analogy. Or like, okay, well, we’re at this point in the race and maybe, you know, the training season for lack of a better analogy. know, running a mile used to be hard. Well, now I can run two and now I can run four.

Jennifer Cudmore (16:42)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (16:58)
And so as we get closer to that, that next goal is, the Lord said something before us that seems intimidating and different and where we feel in equipped to be successful or there’s a need that comes before us and we think there’s no way I could do that. And it’s like, great, that’s why I’m asking you to do it. You can’t, but I can. And so I think when there comes a place where we’re either satisfied in the result, we’re seeing the fruits of

the work that we’ve invested when we’re having additional opportunities come into play that feel very daunting and intimidating and we don’t feel equipped. That’s where we know that we’ve maybe stepped out of the immediate goal and we’re into the next one. I feel like that came to pass for me a lot with blogging and I don’t…

know that that season is over for me. There was a time where I was like, I don’t think I can do both, but I think that’s because God was calling me to step away from that and do some of my own healing before I stepped back into it. But there was a time where I was like, there’s no way I can do this. And then there was like, oh, okay, maybe I can do this. Okay, I’m doing this really well. Okay, now I feel like I’m ready to be done with that for a little bit. And so I think that happens with anything that the Lord is asking us to do, whether it’s raising our kids in our home or being…

plugged in in our community or being plugged in at church or getting into the mission field on a larger scale. When we get to that place where we’re comfortable, he’s going to call us to something new where we are required to rely on him instead of being comfortable.

Jennifer Cudmore (18:37)
I agree. Yeah, you explained that so good. think of a couple examples for me. Like when I first realized that one of my purposes was to be an intercessor, I didn’t really know. mean, I’d heard that word, but what does that entail? And, you know, being a prayer warrior,

it sounded kind of daunting at that. I mean, I know how to pray, but how do I pray effective prayers? so anyway, you know, going out and teaching myself what, what did I, how to do that better, how to do that well. And, now, you know, back then I was uncomfortable. I felt like I didn’t know what I was doing now. I feel like I do know what I’m doing. I am comfortable like you were saying, and, I’m seeing fruit from it. Another example being, you know, when my kids were

Rosalynn Lasley (18:59)
Okay.

huh.

Jennifer Cudmore (19:24)
younger, it was really important to me that I learned to understand their purpose because as a parent I want to help shape them into who I believe that’s my duty as a parent to help shape them into who they’re meant to be so they can find their calling and understand it and not tell them what it is but help them figure it out for themselves, make sure they’ve got the right opportunities and whatnot. And so now my kids are out of the nest and they’re both thriving, they’re both moving.

Rosalynn Lasley (19:35)
Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (19:51)
in their calling, they’re using their gifts and talents, they’re, I don’t know that I would say thriving because there’s always ups and downs in our journeys, but again, I’m seeing the fruit of the effort that I put in to try to learn and understand their talents, their skills, their different things so that I could get them in the right, get them off in the right direction, so as a parent. So anyway, just a couple of examples of.

Rosalynn Lasley (19:59)
and

And so thank God, I you to stepped into

something completely unfamiliar and uncomfortable and now you’re doing a podcast. you got to the place where not that your mission is done because the race before you, like you said, you’re going to be their mom for either the rest of your life or the rest of theirs. And so you’ve kind of gotten this momentum and you’ve gotten things at a place where

Jennifer Cudmore (20:22)
Yes, girl. Yes, is very uncomfortable.

Rosalynn Lasley (20:43)
you’re not actively having to invest so much time, energy, and prayer into what you were being asked to do at that season. Same with vlogging and those sorts of things, but are even intercessing. But once you’ve gotten to that place where, okay, not that your work here is done, but it’s at a place that things are kind of smoothed over and mellow and kind of running pretty good behind the scenes, I’m gonna ask you to do something now.

Jennifer Cudmore (21:06)
Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Yeah, God does shift us and give us new things and he keeps pushing us out of our comfort zone. That’s for sure.

Rosalynn Lasley (21:14)
You’re like, ugh,

thought you knew I didn’t like running.

Jennifer Cudmore (21:18)
Exactly!

This is not the part of the race I wanted. Yeah wear the snacks, I love it. Yeah what? I only get water? I don’t get you know…

Rosalynn Lasley (21:22)
No, I’m like, where are the snacks?

Yeah,

I’m like, who doesn’t have coke at a race?

Jennifer Cudmore (21:34)
So, I, another thing that I thought about was that, when it comes to hindrances and really once, you know, your, your purpose and kind of what direction you want to go, we want to develop awareness around that so that we can begin to understand where are we self sabotaging? Cause like I’ve said in the previous episodes, we don’t notice it. We have blind spots. We need people to help us point it out.

So how do we develop that awareness? And I was thinking for me, a lot of times I would think about external circumstances. So, okay, I wanted to go to this class to learn how to do something new, but I had car trouble, so I couldn’t get there. That’s a hindrance. Or I need to be…

be outside more often trying to get exercise. Well, in Alaska, there was a lot of snow, so I had a lot of excuses why I couldn’t meet that goal, right? It’s too cold, it’s too snowy or whatever. But, you know, or more seriously, like an illness, you know, I had wanted to start recording a couple episodes early in January and I had a pretty bad chest thing, so I had to push it back and, you know, that’s a very real hindrance externally out of my control, right? So,

Rosalynn Lasley (22:24)
huh.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (22:48)
I thought you were gonna say something. Sorry.

Rosalynn Lasley (22:49)
think, well, I just was thinking about how for me, I feel like this is a very new season of even being willing to entertain the idea of having goals and being completely okay with them being wild and unrealistic and completely unattainable in my own strength and identifying like, what is my purpose? Do I know what that is? And I think, you know, it’s kind of

Cliche, because I’m 40 and it’s like mid-life-ish, you know, where people are like, what’s my goal in life? What’s my point? But it’s a very real thing to go, am I doing what the Lord wants me to do with my life? Do I know what that is and how do I identify it? And for me, I think a lot of it came down to being willing to strip away all of the junk that has been weighing me down for so long.

maybe I haven’t set these goals yet, maybe I don’t know what my long-term purpose is because I need to deal with this first because I don’t have the vision because I’m being weighed down by negative self-talk and generational trauma and any of those things. And so it’s like a balance between having external influences, whether it’s an unhappy…

you know, work relationship or physical ailments or any of those things. And then there’s also the things that are way beyond that, that make it hard for us to like tune into like, what is it that you’re asking of me? Like right now, I want you to just kind of, let’s get through some of this junk and then we’ll work on that stuff and, being willing to start considering it. So maybe someday it’ll be a place where I’m like, what class can I take? And I can figure it out, but.

Jennifer Cudmore (24:07)
Okay.

Rosalynn Lasley (24:35)
I don’t think I’m there yet and I think that’s okay.

Jennifer Cudmore (24:38)
It absolutely is okay. And I was going to say, like, really, believe that internal hindrances are way bigger, way, way bigger than the external. And we can use the external ones as excuses to get out of what we know we should be doing. But really, it’s like,

Rosalynn Lasley (24:40)
I’m

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (24:57)
A lot of what you said is kind of I made, just threw out a list and I’d love to hear some of your thoughts on it. Like lack of confidence was huge, especially for me with starting the podcast. I really had to practice believing in myself and speaking, you know, to myself, feeling like that inadequacy that I was struggling with. That’s the word I wanted. um, but

Rosalynn Lasley (25:21)
Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (25:23)
not just in that as an example, but lack of confidence in general, you I don’t have the skills, I don’t have the resources, I don’t have the knowledge. There’s so many different ways where we have valid reason to feel like we don’t have the confidence, but that doesn’t mean like we can still do it even if we have just a little bit of confidence, right? Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (25:43)
You have have just enough to be

like, okay, I’m gonna wing it. Okay, I’m just crazy enough to do it. But yeah, I think wouldn’t it be awesome if it was just so like just the weather and I don’t, you know, we got a cold and then we’ll be better and then we’ll do this awesome podcast and it’ll be great. Like no, God wants me to deal with some really serious junk first. Like, okay, but then maybe someday I can set some goals, you know, but.

Jennifer Cudmore (25:48)
Exactly.

Yep.

Rosalynn Lasley (26:11)
I don’t know, I think it’s just amazing to think how he can take two people that are very, like, our way of going about things are so different and yet we have such a, like our purpose has been so intertwined and connected in ways that I never could have dreamed. You know, and like, I don’t know, I feel like I’ve just kind of, like what’s the word? Like I borrowed your faith and vision on this.

Jennifer Cudmore (26:29)
Yeah.

Rosalynn Lasley (26:38)
You’re like, what do you think about this? I’m like, all right, let’s do it. And you’re like, okay, and I’m gonna know all the ways we’re gonna do all the things. And I’m like, okay, I’ll be on at seven.

Jennifer Cudmore (26:48)
Yeah, because I’m more of a planner and you are not.

Rosalynn Lasley (26:50)
Yep, that’s why you drove

when we went to Nashville and I rode in the back and got crumbs all over the rental car. Yep, and not me. like, I can’t. Nope, I’m just, I’m here for entertainment only.

Jennifer Cudmore (26:56)
yeah, I had to drive. I had to be in control. It’s terrible.

And it was very entertaining. We had a good time.

Rosalynn Lasley (27:07)
But

even on the surface, we may be onto opposite sides of the spectrum on how orderly we are or how we approach certain things, but behind all of that, we’re so similar in fear and negative self-talk and control. When I was listening to some of the other episodes you were talking about, I was like, man, on the surface, if we hadn’t have dug into some of this stuff, I would have never even realized that those are the same thoughts that.

struggle with are the same that I struggle with because we I don’t know hadn’t dug into that so I don’t know I just think it’s awesome

Jennifer Cudmore (27:43)
Yeah, that’s why I’m so excited about this podcast is just bringing awareness that I wish somebody would have sat me down 15 years ago and started talking to me about this stuff. just, you know, so anyhow, but so as far as internal hindrances, there’s more and then we can kind of wrap this up. So excuses of, know, I didn’t have enough opportunity or, you know, I don’t have the time. I don’t have the money, whatever. We can come up with a lot of excuses, right? Or fear, think is

Rosalynn Lasley (28:10)
Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (28:12)
probably the biggest one and it’s hard to dive into in just a few seconds, but fear on so many levels, especially fear of man, what are people gonna say about me? What are they gonna think about me? I don’t wanna look foolish or I don’t wanna look whatever. then I think you touched on this a second ago, but our self-worth is a big deal too, like feeling like we’re not good enough, like we don’t have what it takes to do it well.

Rosalynn Lasley (28:14)
you

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (28:42)
whatever it is in our purpose, whether, I mean, I’ve talked to a couple of women who felt like they were never going to be a good mom, you know, and I was like, no, but you can learn this stuff. There’s so many books, there’s so many resources. You can learn to be an amazing mom. You can be equipped for that, you know, but if you believe that you can’t, then you never will be. So, and that’s something that I can’t wait to dive into at some point too, is, you know, our self-worth and what we believe about ourselves, what we say about ourselves is.

Rosalynn Lasley (28:42)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (29:11)
is huge.

Rosalynn Lasley (29:13)
Mm-hmm. And if we can believe even just a portion of the lies, then we’re not nearly as effective as we would be. But, you the enemy uses what works. And once he gets us believing those one little whisper, then we just keep repeating it to ourselves. He doesn’t, he’s like, my work here is done.

Jennifer Cudmore (29:20)
seconds.

Yeah, absolutely. That is something I want to do an episode on later is how the enemy can deceive us and we latch onto those lies and it feels real, it feels true and we go with it and we internalize it. But that’s a huge topic we can discuss later. Yeah, exactly.

Rosalynn Lasley (29:49)
You can go episode after episode with that one.

Jennifer Cudmore (29:54)
Anyhow, and then just a couple more, know, feeling like we’re not ready and like you were saying, you know, we need sometimes to mature and become healed before we can tackle certain things in our purpose. And then

Rosalynn Lasley (30:02)
Mm-hmm.

You’re back.

Jennifer Cudmore (30:08)
I am just going to record where we left off and then I’ll try to figure out how to or connect the two videos and see if I can do it

Rosalynn Lasley (30:17)
remembering that we don’t have to be perfect in this. So even if it’s not spliced together great, then the Holy Spirit’s gonna do what it’s gonna do with it, regardless of what’s happening with the technical side.

Jennifer Cudmore (30:20)
Mm-hmm exactly

That is

true. Thank you for that.

Okay, so I’m gonna just start with the bad habit thing and go from there and then we can kind of wrap up. Okay, so.

Rosalynn Lasley (30:37)
Okay.

Jennifer Cudmore (30:42)
And then also like bad habits or distractions such as hitting the snooze button a lot. So then you’re not getting up in the morning. And then, I mean, there’s so many ways that is not good for you and that can hinder you. Things like not taking enough time to rest, making sure you’re getting that one day a week where you’re having that Sabbath and you’re relaxing and not just your body, but your mind and other things like sugar addictions or scrolling on social media too much. Like there’s just so many different ways that we can.

Rosalynn Lasley (31:02)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Jennifer Cudmore (31:11)
do those bad habits that just keep us stuck and keep us from moving forward because we’re distracted or anyhow. So those were the ideas on my list as far as some regular hindrances I’ve seen in people’s lives and definitely experienced in my own. So.

Rosalynn Lasley (31:16)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah,

definitely. I’m like, think I most all of those things.

Jennifer Cudmore (31:32)
Yes, at some time. So these types of hindrances are what we’re going to dig into more in more episodes of the podcast. We’ll get a little deeper into those, but really it’s about our mindset and how we don’t realize that our perspective being skewed really can get in the way of us being successful and having a good quality of life. So we’re going to take a deeper look at our daily lives and how we’re

Rosalynn Lasley (31:34)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (32:00)
getting in our own way, start paying attention to our patterns, because we can learn from them. And then just hindrances that are typically in the form of lies, labels, and limitations. And I can’t wait to dig into some of those common things later here. Well, hopefully not too much later. anyhow, do you have any other final thoughts before we wrap up?

Rosalynn Lasley (32:11)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I think for me, one of the biggest challenges was once I identified some of the areas where, you know, like being afraid to set goals and identifying it as a fear of failure, not knowing what to do about it. Like, how do I get out of this place and not feeling like I was equipped to get to that place on my own? And so I’m hopeful that as we spend some time, you know, having conversation that, you know, we can unpack some of this together and, know, from different places and different.

places of healing and progress in our own lives and encourage other people that you don’t have to have it all figured out today. Like sometimes the first step is just acknowledging like, I don’t want to be in this place anymore or, you know, this is an issue and I’m not sure how to get past it, but I’m willing. And then letting things kind of start to work out with time.

Jennifer Cudmore (33:13)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. As we wrap up, I don’t have any refra reflection questions, but just in general Just acknowledging everybody wants a better quality of life, right? So we would love for you to continue to join us every week as we venture into the depths we’re gonna pursue answers and try to throw off all those weights that are hindering us and holding us back so

Rosalynn Lasley (33:25)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Jennifer Cudmore (33:37)
We will see you next time on the podcast, Into the Depths. Thank you, bye everybody.

Rosalynn Lasley (33:41)
Yes, thank you.